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		By: wickpassion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wickpassion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 12:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-270401&quot;&gt;Zarina&lt;/a&gt;.

VEry interesting app...This one, right https://utopia-ecosystem.com/ ? I would like to know more about it before installing it. I wouldn&#039;t want to accidentally download something wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-270401">Zarina</a>.</p>
<p>VEry interesting app&#8230;This one, right <a href="https://utopia-ecosystem.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://utopia-ecosystem.com/</a> ? I would like to know more about it before installing it. I wouldn&#8217;t want to accidentally download something wrong.</p>
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		By: Daddysgirl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daddysgirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-270401&quot;&gt;Zarina&lt;/a&gt;.

Cool, very interesting application. SKazhi, is it suitable for team communication? I would be interested in using it for personal and corporate purposes. I would also like to know if this application is free?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-270401">Zarina</a>.</p>
<p>Cool, very interesting application. SKazhi, is it suitable for team communication? I would be interested in using it for personal and corporate purposes. I would also like to know if this application is free?</p>
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		By: Penny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Penny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-270401&quot;&gt;Zarina&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, do you use this ecosystem too? I believe that in 2020, this application was the most useful to me. It&#039;s a pity that the washing app hasn&#039;t been released yet. Although, it seems that the release is scheduled for the first half of 2021. And, I almost forgot, in general I am delighted with their stylish design.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-270401">Zarina</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, do you use this ecosystem too? I believe that in 2020, this application was the most useful to me. It&#8217;s a pity that the washing app hasn&#8217;t been released yet. Although, it seems that the release is scheduled for the first half of 2021. And, I almost forgot, in general I am delighted with their stylish design.</p>
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		By: Zarina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zarina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would also like to add the Utopia p2p application to the list. It is an encrypted decentralized ecosystem that does not require users to use any personal data. Plus, the app is completely free. At the moment, a desktop version is available, but a mobile application is planned to be released in early 2021.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to add the Utopia p2p application to the list. It is an encrypted decentralized ecosystem that does not require users to use any personal data. Plus, the app is completely free. At the moment, a desktop version is available, but a mobile application is planned to be released in early 2021.</p>
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		By: guest		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt; &#062; The instant messengers apps listed below all use end-to-end encryption &lt;/b&gt;

iMessage &#038; WhatsApp are not open source, so the promise of &quot;end to end encryption&quot; is completely worthless because it is unverifiable.  WhatsApp CEO Jan Koum quit his job at Facebook, and WhatsApp co-founder Brian Acton is warning people not to use WhatsApp since Facebook took over.  Facebook has never published an app which does NOT spy on you!

&lt;b&gt; &#062; These services have end-to-end encryption but they require a phone number &lt;/b&gt;

Session is a decentralized fork of Signal which does NOT require a phone number.  It runs on a hybrid onion routing network that stores undeliverable messages in blockchain until the recipient comes online.  Really surprised that a blockchain/crypto expert would miss this one.

Element (formerly Riot.IM) also supports E2E without a phone number; it also supports self hosting and pluggable transports (meaning: bridges to other instant messaging networks.)  Mozilla has chosen Element for its corporate messaging needs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> &gt; The instant messengers apps listed below all use end-to-end encryption </b></p>
<p>iMessage &amp; WhatsApp are not open source, so the promise of &#8220;end to end encryption&#8221; is completely worthless because it is unverifiable.  WhatsApp CEO Jan Koum quit his job at Facebook, and WhatsApp co-founder Brian Acton is warning people not to use WhatsApp since Facebook took over.  Facebook has never published an app which does NOT spy on you!</p>
<p><b> &gt; These services have end-to-end encryption but they require a phone number </b></p>
<p>Session is a decentralized fork of Signal which does NOT require a phone number.  It runs on a hybrid onion routing network that stores undeliverable messages in blockchain until the recipient comes online.  Really surprised that a blockchain/crypto expert would miss this one.</p>
<p>Element (formerly Riot.IM) also supports E2E without a phone number; it also supports self hosting and pluggable transports (meaning: bridges to other instant messaging networks.)  Mozilla has chosen Element for its corporate messaging needs.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-269927&quot;&gt;Grey One&lt;/a&gt;.

How about Session messenger? (getsession.org). It uses an onion inspired system to deliver your messages. It is also a decentralized messenger, and needs no mobile phone number. Features group chats.

There&#039;s also riot.im/matrix, which I personally don&#039;t like/use, but it exists. (The whole sake of e2e messanging is being normie friendly. For the effort of matrix, I could be pgp&#039;ing text with people already)

Also, perhaps this article could be extended by notices, such as afaik, for Jami to deliver your messages, both users need to be online, correct me if I am wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-269927">Grey One</a>.</p>
<p>How about Session messenger? (getsession.org). It uses an onion inspired system to deliver your messages. It is also a decentralized messenger, and needs no mobile phone number. Features group chats.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also riot.im/matrix, which I personally don&#8217;t like/use, but it exists. (The whole sake of e2e messanging is being normie friendly. For the effort of matrix, I could be pgp&#8217;ing text with people already)</p>
<p>Also, perhaps this article could be extended by notices, such as afaik, for Jami to deliver your messages, both users need to be online, correct me if I am wrong.</p>
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		By: Surf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about new [url=https://getsession.org/]Session[/url] messenger?
Mesh network, end-to-end encryption, doesn&#039;t requires phone number.
Blockchain on Loki network.

I&#039;m not affilated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about new [url=https://getsession.org/]Session[/url] messenger?<br />
Mesh network, end-to-end encryption, doesn&#8217;t requires phone number.<br />
Blockchain on Loki network.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not affilated.</p>
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		By: Grey One		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grey One]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 01:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-269944&quot;&gt;Jimbo&lt;/a&gt;.

True, I&#039;ll add it to the list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-269944">Jimbo</a>.</p>
<p>True, I&#8217;ll add it to the list.</p>
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		By: Jimbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 01:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How about &lt;a href=&quot;https://wire.com/en/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Wire&lt;/a&gt;? Uses Signal protocol but doesn&#039;t require a telephone number.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about <a href="https://wire.com/en/" rel="nofollow ugc">Wire</a>? Uses Signal protocol but doesn&#8217;t require a telephone number.</p>
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		By: Grey One		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grey One]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-269924&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Signal requires your to enter a telephone number to work. But I added it to the list for the sake of completeness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-new-instant-messengers-with-end-to-end-encryption/#comment-269924">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Signal requires your to enter a telephone number to work. But I added it to the list for the sake of completeness.</p>
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